Vic CFA pay deal talks break down

Talks over a pay deal for Country Fire Authority firefighters have broken down, with Victoria's emergency services minister saying union demands are unrealistic.

But the United Firefighters Union has promised industrial war over the government's move to have the Fair Work Commission deal with the dispute.

Minister Jane Garrett says firefighters will get an immediate five per cent pay rise from their next pay because they haven't had a wage increase since August 2013.

She says the union is demanding a pay rise of around 30 per cent over three years and a list of 47 special allowances that could cost tens of millions of dollars to implement.

"We have been hopeful that we would be getting to a more realistic point, one that gives our firefighters an agreement they deserve ... at the moment, I don't believe we are working within reality," Ms Garrett told reporters on Thursday.

The union has promised a campaign of industrial action against the government, saying the five per cent pay rise is disrespectful.

"We're at war with the government, there's no illusion about it," secretary Peter Marshall told AAP.

"They will regret the day that they betrayed firefighters."

Opposition emergency services spokesman Brad Battin says the government is bungling public sector pay negotiations.

"Daniel Andrews is a weak premier who has been walked all over by the paramedics union, the CFMEU, the CPSU, the rail workers union and now the firefighters union," he said in a statement.

Victoria's Police Association voted in support of widespread industrial action over its own wage claim.

It includes a ban on unpaid overtime, police cars with flashing lights parked at intersections with speed cameras and a halt on processing speed camera tickets.

The union formally rejected an offer of 2.5 per cent annual pay rises over four years.

It wants a three-year deal with five per cent annual rises and penalty rates, which police in all other states get.